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The Blunami swept away a lot of the existing take infrastructure in Washington and New York, and we media consumers are getting to watch the rebuilding of political narratives in real time. Few institutions have more influence over that process than The New York Times, which makes Ezra Klein’s conversation with Democratic strategist Adam Jentleson particularly revealing.

Jentleson, Klein tells us, is the first of two guests he plans to have on: one representing what he says you could call the “centrist pragmatist wing of the party” (Jentleson), the other, not yet named by Klein, “someone from the much more left wing of the coalition.”

The framing is so familiar it may not bother you: Centrism and pragmatism are basically the same, right? But if it’s the left that’s pie-eyed and goofy, wait until you hear Jentleson’s very pragmatic and centrist suggestions for candidates moving forward.

Asked by Klein about his focus-group research, Jentleson explains that Democrats need to communicate that they don’t think in “rigidly ideological” ways—but rather, you know, *pragmatically,* and *centristically.* He says candidates can send “powerful signals to voters” and “connect with them on a values basis” by opposing social promotion in schools, “opposing homeless encampments,” and being “open to things like spanking.”

“Opposing homeless encampments” seems very pragmatic and centrist, until we start talking about what happens to the people who make those camps. Is “put them somewhere else” pragmatic or centrist, I forget?

I don’t want to touch the peculiar phrasing of “being open to things like spanking,” as though corporal punishment were a matter of adventurous personal taste—but I do wonder how pragmatic and centrist child abuse is. Then again, the Epstein scandal was nothing if not bipartisan.

My bigger point might be that it’s sure going to sound weird in two years if suddenly there’s a new wave of anti-social promotion and “homeless encampments” but pro-spanking Democrats running for office, and they’ve got to explain how they got to those positions all pragmatically and centrist-like—even though the article exists, right here.

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